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Post by defiant1 on Jun 19, 2012 21:39:08 GMT -5
They toss is some left field bullshit every other month. It isn't entertaining. It's a fucking freak show. It's not even an interesting freak show. That sums it up right there. I don't get why there is so much to defend here. This isn't a great storyline. This isn't a work of art in terms of comic talent. This isn't some epic arc in the history of comics. This is a lack of talent. This is not knowing how to make great comics. This is the kind of shit some 15 year old kid with no experience writing comics would come up with. Its not like we have something great to treasure here. It's a money grab fronting as a political and social statement. It's not the Dark Phoenix Saga. It's not Watchmen. It's not Pre-Unity Valiant launch. It's nothing like that. It's fluff. It's no talent bullshit being paraded as heroes. It's sheepherding. BaaAaaaAaa! Anybody still buying comics today is content with the quality of what they are getting or they wouldn't be spending the money. I think the modern comic consumer has extremely low standards. Trying to explain quality and increased marketability to someone who is happy with even a portion of what they buy is like trying to tell a fish how great it is to fly. They don't want it. They don't care. All they want is words and pictures on paper. They have low to medium expectations and they are getting exactly what they want. I've said it before and I'll say it again... If MY quality expectations were met, the industry would be growing, not dwindling away and looking for alternate technologies to stay alive. df1 |
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Post by G on Jun 20, 2012 10:37:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree. To the 1/10th of the remaining comic fans left, comics can do no wrong. It's all good. It's all cool. As long as we get poster shot covers and single stories that take place stretching out over 6 issues instead of 1, and shock value and controversy, it doesn't matter. It's cool.
I'm always surprised no one rises from the ashes to go after the 9/10ths that left comics. I still live in denial that the greatest comics ever made could come out now if someone with some strong integrity, leadership, business ethics and vision came along and made it happen. But its never happened yet and I'm living with less and less hope that it ever will.
If someone just possessed those qualities with decent backing, I think comics would wake back up and have a resurgence equivalent to the early 90s. I might actually buy new comics again if someone just listened to the 9 out 10 people who left.
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Post by defiant1 on Jun 20, 2012 17:05:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree. To the 1/10th of the remaining comic fans left, comics can do no wrong. It's all good. It's all cool. As long as we get poster shot covers and single stories that take place stretching out over 6 issues instead of 1, and shock value and controversy, it doesn't matter. It's cool. I'm always surprised no one rises from the ashes to go after the 9/10ths that left comics. I still live in denial that the greatest comics ever made could come out now if someone with some strong integrity, leadership, business ethics and vision came along and made it happen. But its never happened yet and I'm living with less and less hope that it ever will. If someone just possessed those qualities with decent backing, I think comics would wake back up and have a resurgence equivalent to the early 90s. I might actually buy new comics again if someone just listened to the 9 out 10 people who left. I think what you are going to see is the movies burning through all the stories and content we like. All that'll be left to make movies about is the shallow shit that publishers are releasing today. By that time the comic book movies will be losing money. There will be no character depth. Can you imagine a new movie hyping Spider-man as a black hispanic or making the dramatic focus of their movie a gay marriage? Moviegoers are going to cringe and say "I'll pass on that." It's only a matter of time before the modern creators try to put their shit on the screen and realize it doesn't get the same box office sales. df1 |
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Post by G on Jun 20, 2012 19:12:42 GMT -5
I've noticed I could care less about the previews for this upcoming Spider-Man movie. It's already taking on a look of slickness and losing the appeal of looking like something that has a decent story attached to it. Maybe I could be wrong, but out of all the Spider-Man movies that have existed, this is the one that looks the least interesting to me.
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Post by defiant1 on Jun 21, 2012 21:13:48 GMT -5
I've noticed I could care less about the previews for this upcoming Spider-Man movie. It's already taking on a look of slickness and losing the appeal of looking like something that has a decent story attached to it. Maybe I could be wrong, but out of all the Spider-Man movies that have existed, this is the one that looks the least interesting to me. I don't mind the guy from social network playing Spider-man, but I agree. The trailer for this movie makes it look horrible. I would normally be perked up to see the Lizard in a movie. For some reason I'm not. I thought X-Men: First Class was horrid. It wasn't really based upon the Lee/Kirby stuff and it suffered because of it. df1 |
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Post by G on Jun 22, 2012 2:04:30 GMT -5
The Lizard looks like the best parts of the movie, but the rest of it looks sickening when I see the previews for it. It just doesn't look good to me.
It's sad to hear a Lee/Kirby production didn't play out well in the theaters. But someone I don't think they made comics with movies in mind. It's funny because so far, I have tended to like my comics that way better.
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Post by defiant1 on Jun 22, 2012 17:06:29 GMT -5
The Lizard looks like the best parts of the movie, but the rest of it looks sickening when I see the previews for it. It just doesn't look good to me. It's sad to hear a Lee/Kirby production didn't play out well in the theaters. But someone I don't think they made comics with movies in mind. It's funny because so far, I have tended to like my comics that way better. I think everything Lee, Kirny, and Ditko did holds up extremely well when the science is updated. X-Men First Class was more of a James Bond movie with super-powered people in it. Everyone stood around talking about their powers and never did anything constructive with them until the end. You need to see Avengers for the Hulk & Thor scenes. Captain America came across as a wimp as did Hawkeye. I think all were fairly well true to the comics. df1 |
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Post by G on Oct 2, 2012 21:45:29 GMT -5
The Lizard looks like the best parts of the movie, but the rest of it looks sickening when I see the previews for it. It just doesn't look good to me. It's sad to hear a Lee/Kirby production didn't play out well in the theaters. But someone I don't think they made comics with movies in mind. It's funny because so far, I have tended to like my comics that way better. I think everything Lee, Kirny, and Ditko did holds up extremely well when the science is updated. X-Men First Class was more of a James Bond movie with super-powered people in it. Everyone stood around talking about their powers and never did anything constructive with them until the end. You need to see Avengers for the Hulk & Thor scenes. Captain America came across as a wimp as did Hawkeye. I think all were fairly well true to the comics. df1 I came on here to update my blog and took a gander at the last few pieces I put in it. I found your comments on X-Men First Class and now I can relate and it was something I was going to make a post on by itself, but it fits here. When my wife left, DirectTV went with it. I had to get it back at my place so I order it and in doing so I got a couple of perks. One, is I got a full season of NFL Sunday ticket for free which for someone like me is great, but for two, I got 3 months of all the movie channels like HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, etc for free. Hey, I'm not big on movies but my life lately has had very little entertainment. So I've been watching more movies. One of the movies I watched a few weeks ago was X-Men First Class. I have to say, I agree. I was horrid. The whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth. We have what appears to be the original X-Men taking place during the 1960s apparently but in reality, its not the original X-Men. Its a mismatch of original and modern X-Men. To further confuse it, the Hellfire Club who didn't really come into play in the X-Men until the late 70s - early 80s make up the villains. It threw the timeline completely off and the mismatch of characters was awful. I agree, I got 30 minutes into the movie and it felt like I was in the middle of a plot that had nothing going for it. I got to wondering how I got 30 minutes into this thing and not really know what is going on and even worse, how come I don't like anybody? I think by far Marvel has kicked DC's ass over the years making movies but I find the ones I typically hate the most are the X-Men movies. I don't know why. Its a few reasons actually. 1st, they make them seem like human regular people versions of their comic counterparts. Almost ordinary at all times and whenever they want, they can show off. And usually when they do, their uniforms do not look anything like the comics. Luckily, in X-Men First Class, they did a fair comparison to the originals. But by time they got into these costumes, I couldn't care less. The problem with these movies is their are too many characters spread out and they can only show each for a minute or two at a time. So they go from character to character and what ends up happening is you don't hardly care for anybody. Luckily, the longer you watch it, the more you start putting together the plot. But its because you put it together. Its not really because the movie made you understand it. The movie just leaves you to play detective and if you stick with it long enough, you'll put together your own version of things. I like DF1's description of a James Bond type movie. Yeah, I guess it wanted to be something like that. But Jame Bond movies are usually decent. By the end, this movie was growing on me, but not much. I was thinking it was a dog and I was ready for it to end. The final battle scenes seemed cheesy as hell. Missiles launched from ships only to be returned to them. Oh yeah and before I forget the music was horrible. I hate that heroic type of music that's like the Original Superman music where everything sounds heroic throughout the movie even during lame talking scenes. It kept flipping from Superman to Star Trek music. I was getting barfy from it. In all, I think I am happier watch all other types of Marvel Movies, but I really have no interest in X-Men movies because they don't ever remind me of what it is I loved about the X-Men. Instead, they remind me of what I hate about comics. |
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Post by defiant1 on Oct 3, 2012 4:49:06 GMT -5
I think everything Lee, Kirny, and Ditko did holds up extremely well when the science is updated. X-Men First Class was more of a James Bond movie with super-powered people in it. Everyone stood around talking about their powers and never did anything constructive with them until the end. You need to see Avengers for the Hulk & Thor scenes. Captain America came across as a wimp as did Hawkeye. I think all were fairly well true to the comics. df1 I came on here to update my blog and took a gander at the last few pieces I put in it. I found your comments on X-Men First Class and now I can relate and it was something I was going to make a post on by itself, but it fits here. When my wife left, DirectTV went with it. I had to get it back at my place so I order it and in doing so I got a couple of perks. One, is I got a full season of NFL Sunday ticket for free which for someone like me is great, but for two, I got 3 months of all the movie channels like HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, etc for free. Hey, I'm not big on movies but my life lately has had very little entertainment. So I've been watching more movies. One of the movies I watched a few weeks ago was X-Men First Class. I have to say, I agree. I was horrid. The whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth. We have what appears to be the original X-Men taking place during the 1960s apparently but in reality, its not the original X-Men. Its a mismatch of original and modern X-Men. To further confuse it, the Hellfire Club who didn't really come into play in the X-Men until the late 70s - early 80s make up the villains. It threw the timeline completely off and the mismatch of characters was awful. I agree, I got 30 minutes into the movie and it felt like I was in the middle of a plot that had nothing going for it. I got to wondering how I got 30 minutes into this thing and not really know what is going on and even worse, how come I don't like anybody? I think by far Marvel has kicked DC's ass over the years making movies but I find the ones I typically hate the most are the X-Men movies. I don't know why. Its a few reasons actually. 1st, they make them seem like human regular people versions of their comic counterparts. Almost ordinary at all times and whenever they want, they can show off. And usually when they do, their uniforms do not look anything like the comics. Luckily, in X-Men First Class, they did a fair comparison to the originals. But by time they got into these costumes, I couldn't care less. The problem with these movies is their are too many characters spread out and they can only show each for a minute or two at a time. So they go from character to character and what ends up happening is you don't hardly care for anybody. Luckily, the longer you watch it, the more you start putting together the plot. But its because you put it together. Its not really because the movie made you understand it. The movie just leaves you to play detective and if you stick with it long enough, you'll put together your own version of things. I like DF1's description of a James Bond type movie. Yeah, I guess it wanted to be something like that. But Jame Bond movies are usually decent. By the end, this movie was growing on me, but not much. I was thinking it was a dog and I was ready for it to end. The final battle scenes seemed cheesy as hell. Missiles launched from ships only to be returned to them. Oh yeah and before I forget the music was horrible. I hate that heroic type of music that's like the Original Superman music where everything sounds heroic throughout the movie even during lame talking scenes. It kept flipping from Superman to Star Trek music. I was getting barfy from it. In all, I think I am happier watch all other types of Marvel Movies, but I really have no interest in X-Men movies because they don't ever remind me of what it is I loved about the X-Men. Instead, they remind me of what I hate about comics. The movie seemed to get decent reviews, but I thought it was too many scenes of people not doing anything. It tried to be cerebral when all it did was copy a spy movie plot. df1 |
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Post by G on Oct 3, 2012 11:14:31 GMT -5
I thought it was too many scenes of people not doing anything. Nuff said. |
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