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Post by defiant1 on Aug 1, 2009 15:03:49 GMT -5
I certainly like it when I can post milestones and its been awhile since I could, but I'm pleased to add Defiant1 as a "new hire"! Good to have you around! It's calm and relaxing over here. Can you share your meds with all my board members? I think I have some Hydrocodone for myself. Defiant1
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Post by G on Aug 1, 2009 22:37:21 GMT -5
Your board is back to rocking! I remember when it used to be pretty quiet. Although its been on the upswing for quite some time, this Shooter story is like the perfect storm.
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Post by defiant1 on Aug 2, 2009 0:09:11 GMT -5
Your board is back to rocking! I remember when it used to be pretty quiet. Although its been on the upswing for quite some time, this Shooter story is like the perfect storm. I don't even understand it. Some of the guys were posting everywhere but my board. More lurkers than posters. There is definitely a buzz over there defiant1
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Post by G on Aug 2, 2009 0:18:36 GMT -5
You always seem to be a lightening rod when it comes to all subjects relating to Shooter. Maybe because you seem more pro-Shooter than pro-Valiant. And thats just my observation. I don't know how you want to classify yourself on matters involving Shooter and Valiant.
I come away from the breaking story with a lot of optimism for what Shooter can do and I'm 50 times more excited about his efforts with those characters than I am about anything VEI can do.
I feel like Im the only one sometimes. I recognize the greatness of Valiant, but I'm over it. Its been 17 years since Valiant peaked. I keep thinking comics should have evolved with another great moment since then and I don't think it's happened yet.
Part of me wonders if this might be it in the making?
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Post by defiant1 on Aug 2, 2009 8:22:33 GMT -5
You always seem to be a lightening rod when it comes to all subjects relating to Shooter. Maybe because you seem more pro-Shooter than pro-Valiant. And thats just my observation. I don't know how you want to classify yourself on matters involving Shooter and Valiant. I come away from the breaking story with a lot of optimism for what Shooter can do and I'm 50 times more excited about his efforts with those characters than I am about anything VEI can do. I feel like Im the only one sometimes. I recognize the greatness of Valiant, but I'm over it. Its been 17 years since Valiant peaked. I keep thinking comics should have evolved with another great moment since then and I don't think it's happened yet. Part of me wonders if this might be it in the making? I pretty much agree. Shooter has some fundamental ability to make a story. He isn't intimidated by grand scale events. He juggles what a superhero would really be capable of doing. The Vanhook Solar just blasted things. The Shooter Solar pondered things with the brains of a nuclear physicist. If I come across as a Shooter fan, it's because he's the only writer that I'm confident can pull everything together. Jim Shooter did not look real confident in the SD Comicon announcement. I think Richardson sees Dark Horse slipping backwards and they are at a crossroads about what to do. VEI is a wasted cause. They release a press statement about working on comics after Shooter announces he's writing for Dark Horse. Who really gives a crap! Seriously. If they don't have Solar it rips out the glue that held everything together. Also, the concepts are very outdated. Who would want to see a Timewalker movie after this movie "The Time Traveler's Wife" comes out. Will anyone want an X-O movie after Iron Man runs it's course in the theaters? GI Joe is introducing these accelerator suits. Anybody seeing X-O now will think it's a rehash of a guy in a suit. If you've seen the PUSH movie, you don't need to see Harbinger. VEI doesn't even have a writer. How the hell can their creative ideas be worth anything if they have nobody to create for them. Who are they going to attract? Defiant1
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Post by G on Aug 2, 2009 13:48:43 GMT -5
Who are they going to attract? Great points. They appear to be keeping the Valiant fanboys excited, but I dont see anybody new coming into the fold. If they did release books, I can see the hype machines working overdrive and maybe initially a few will jump aboard. But once you get past say issue 3, it better have some substance and I just dont think it will. Shooter is indeed a master schemer and big picture guy. He could actually make this work and this is a major win for Dark Horse. They already seem more Valiant than VEI. Already have more to look forward to than glorified reprints. VEI is going to make some books? Great...whats the details? Is there any? Or like always, its shrouded in secrecy? It almost seems like Dark Horse slammed VEI with 1 simple and clearly defined announcement and VEI is left in damage control mode.
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Post by defiant1 on Aug 2, 2009 21:26:38 GMT -5
It almost seems like Dark Horse slammed VEI with 1 simple and clearly defined announcement and VEI is left in damage control mode. Exactly! Are they too stupid to update their web page if this announcement were true? The message they sent out was that they tried to get something together for San Diego but it fell through. Sure! Defiant1
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Post by starbrand on Aug 3, 2009 11:08:23 GMT -5
It almost seems like Dark Horse slammed VEI with 1 simple and clearly defined announcement and VEI is left in damage control mode. Exactly! Are they too stupid to update their web page if this announcement were true? The message they sent out was that they tried to get something together for San Diego but it fell through. Sure! Defiant1 Definately the worst marketing I've ever seen.
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Post by defiant1 on Aug 3, 2009 17:04:21 GMT -5
Exactly! Are they too stupid to update their web page if this announcement were true? The message they sent out was that they tried to get something together for San Diego but it fell through. Sure! Defiant1 Definately the worst marketing I've ever seen. Pathetic lying sounds more like it. I know they've l;ied to me, so that's all I expect from them. Anything else is just an unusual quirk. Defiant1
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Post by G on Aug 3, 2009 17:17:49 GMT -5
Pathetic lying sounds more like it. I know they've l;ied to me, so that's all I expect from them. Would it be possible for you to elaborate on this?
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