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Post by bigw1966 on May 17, 2010 8:39:52 GMT -5
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Post by cyberstrike on May 17, 2010 10:47:52 GMT -5
But none of them, even all of them combined ever had the impact on the wold of commercial Illustration AND fine Art like Frazetta. QFT. Farnk Frazetta was to the first artist to sucessfully make the crossover from commercial art to fine art and back again. He did it at a time when almost every commercial artist, no matter how good or bad, were considered hacks. I think it's safe to say any original comic book art that you would bought or has been sold for thousands of dollars would be totally worthless without Fazetta (and of course Neal Adams leading the fight to get artwork returned to the artists) by showing that was a market for it and that commercial artists were just as good as fine artists and that they're artwork could make as much if not more money as fine artists. |
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Post by G on May 17, 2010 15:07:30 GMT -5
All of this is all well and good, but the thing that sticks out to me is this.....
I've had this "Creators" Forum area now about 2 years and no one made one thread about him or comment about him until I posted a "Frank Frazetta is dead" thread.
There are a lot of greats listed in this thread area and yet no one thought enough to post about him when he was alive. None of this by the way diminishes who the man is or what he's done. I'll once again go on record and say he was great. But its odd when we post threads about as many greats as we can and he somehow got left out.
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Post by bigw1966 on May 18, 2010 7:40:58 GMT -5
The reason for that GW is because you guys do not look at him as a Comic Artist. You may think he is great but you unconciously keep him isolated to being a fantasy painter.
Well, not just you, I am generalizing here.
Also many people have certain artists they like and don't like to look beyond that .
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Post by defiant1 on May 19, 2010 4:43:42 GMT -5
The reason for that GW is because you guys do not look at him as a Comic Artist. You may think he is great but you unconciously keep him isolated to being a fantasy painter. Well, not just you, I am generalizing here. Also many people have certain artists they like and don't like to look beyond that . I look at Frazetta as a talented artist who didn't settle for the status quo. You can talk about all the things he did, but the truth is that his talent attracted the people that were able to knock down the barriers for him. I still think there are plenty of people that draw as well. If he deserves credit, it's because he was fluent in both pen/ink & oil painting and asserted himself. If he had to rely on his Conan paintings alone to be memorable, he would have been forgotten long ago. Can you name many book illustrators? Many are quite talented yet they are unknown to most people. I asked someone the other day if they knew who Frazetta was. They didn't. They knew who Dr. Suess was. My point is that there are plenty of artists who left a bigger and more important footprint in the last 100 years. df1 |
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Post by bigw1966 on May 20, 2010 8:23:11 GMT -5
Here is an excerpt from an Interview with Director Robert Rodriguez (SIN CITY, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, Desperado) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- YOU VISITED FRAZETTA A FEW TIMES Yes, and it was actually very sad that this deal closed right after Frank passed, I was so looking forward to calling him and saying “At long last, we’re finally making the movie, Frank!” Frank was an awesome guy, I went to visit him at his house some years back and he showed me his museum. He walked me through and pointed out so many of his famous paintings, saying “I painted that in three days, I painted that in one day, that one over there in two days.” His wife Ellie was there to confirm that he wasn’t exaggerating. She was the one that had to ship them out with the paint still wet because Frank was pressing up against a deadline. To see what he was able to paint in record time was astounding. I’ve been inspired by his paintings since I was 10 years old back when I first saw those Bantam Books collections of his work at the local bookstore. I think that’s why I was continually drawn to Machete over the years, I always thought of Machete as my version of Frazetta’s CONAN. In fact, I have a bronze of Machete on my desk which you’ve seen where Machete’s standing in a classic Frazetta’s CONAN pose. I also have Frazetta reproduction paintings hanging all over my house, I don’t think I’ve gone a day without seeing Frank’s work somewhere in my living space. He’s been so influential to artists and filmmakers, and yet we still haven’t seen a Frazetta world truly come to life in a live action film, so that’s what I’d want to do with the FIRE and ICE project. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the trailer for the Animated Fire and Ice which was animated by both Frazetta and Bashki. <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Sz-yLWGaIxM&border=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Sz-yLWGaIxM&border=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> |
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Post by bigw1966 on May 20, 2010 8:24:08 GMT -5
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Post by defiant1 on May 20, 2010 17:31:26 GMT -5
Here is an excerpt from an Interview with Director Robert Rodriguez (SIN CITY, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, Desperado) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- YOU VISITED FRAZETTA A FEW TIMES Yes, and it was actually very sad that this deal closed right after Frank passed, I was so looking forward to calling him and saying “At long last, we’re finally making the movie, Frank!” Frank was an awesome guy, I went to visit him at his house some years back and he showed me his museum. He walked me through and pointed out so many of his famous paintings, saying “I painted that in three days, I painted that in one day, that one over there in two days.” His wife Ellie was there to confirm that he wasn’t exaggerating. She was the one that had to ship them out with the paint still wet because Frank was pressing up against a deadline. To see what he was able to paint in record time was astounding. I’ve been inspired by his paintings since I was 10 years old back when I first saw those Bantam Books collections of his work at the local bookstore. I think that’s why I was continually drawn to Machete over the years, I always thought of Machete as my version of Frazetta’s CONAN. In fact, I have a bronze of Machete on my desk which you’ve seen where Machete’s standing in a classic Frazetta’s CONAN pose. I also have Frazetta reproduction paintings hanging all over my house, I don’t think I’ve gone a day without seeing Frank’s work somewhere in my living space. He’s been so influential to artists and filmmakers, and yet we still haven’t seen a Frazetta world truly come to life in a live action film, so that’s what I’d want to do with the FIRE and ICE project. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the trailer for the Animated Fire and Ice which was animated by both Frazetta and Bashki. <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value=" www.youtube.com/v/Sz-yLWGaIxM&border=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" www.youtube.com/v/Sz-yLWGaIxM&border=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> It'd be interesting to know if the video in that trailer was animated in the style of Heavy Metal. The main feature portion of Heavy Metal was filmed with a real actress first, then they went back and had an artist draw all the frames. That why the motions were so realistic. df1 |
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Post by bigw1966 on May 21, 2010 9:45:49 GMT -5
Yeah its called Rotoscope. That is what Bashki did for most all of his cartoons. He and Frazetta did all of the animation also. The film is pretty good also. Nothing classic, but a live action version could be pure magic.
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Post by G on May 21, 2010 10:14:36 GMT -5
I was able to bring the video over here in case others want to see it without clicking on the link.
This video was pretty cool. Looks like they had other videos showing the actual movie over there.
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