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Post by G on Jul 4, 2010 20:33:44 GMT -5
I may be just out of the loop, but I hardly ever hear or see Rubinstein's name mentioned anywhere any more nor do I ever hear it mentioned with very much praise. He seems almost forgotten. But I can remember a time when Joe Rubinstein was one of the "go-to" guys in terms of finding an inker who could make anyone's work appear solid.
As I tried looking up info on Rubenstein (albeit, I found little very useful), I did see a mention that he is credited with inking more artist works than any other inker. Not exactly sure how true that is, but if it is, he seems somehow left out of the mentions when people start naming greats. When it comes down to the small handful of inkers who delivered time and again, I just feel you gotta include Joe Rubinstein. But that's just me...
Anyone else have thoughts or latest news???
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Post by defiant1 on Jul 4, 2010 21:23:19 GMT -5
I may be just out of the loop, but I hardly ever hear or see Rubinstein's name mentioned anywhere any more nor do I ever hear it mentioned with very much praise. He seems almost forgotten. But I can remember a time when Joe Rubinstein was one of the "go-to" guys in terms of finding an inker who could make anyone's work appear solid. As I tried looking up info on Rubenstein (albeit, I found little very useful), I did see a mention that he is credited with inking more artist works than any other inker. Not exactly sure how true that is, but if it is, he seems somehow left out of the mentions when people start naming greats. When it comes down to the small handful of inkers who delivered time and again, I just feel you gotta include Joe Rubinstein. But that's just me... Anyone else have thoughts or latest news??? Joe contacted me last year after I posted this Larsen piece on the Comic Art Fans site. He offered to ink it for me, but money was extremely tight and I told him for the foreseeable future that I'd need to save money. I still have his email address. I could still get him to give me a light box inked version, but I don't see the point. Rich pencils everything so tightly,I think it's fine just like it is. df1
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Post by G on Jul 4, 2010 23:32:22 GMT -5
Wow man! You've been holding out on us df1! That is one sweet piece of pencils! I dig it very much! I can see why you wouldn't want it inked. The penciled work is fine as it is and it remains in its original state. I would be very reluctant if I was you too. Thanks for posting. (What else are you holding out on?) However, aside from this situation which is very unique. Whats the feeling or the latest on Joe Rubinstein?
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Post by G on Jul 4, 2010 23:34:50 GMT -5
Damn. I keep looking at that piece. It's sweet. That's Galactus done right. I feel like Galactus is one character that more artists miss the boat with than hit it. That's a direct hit there!
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Post by defiant1 on Jul 5, 2010 6:33:25 GMT -5
Wow man! You've been holding out on us df1! That is one sweet piece of pencils! I dig it very much! I can see why you wouldn't want it inked. The penciled work is fine as it is and it remains in its original state. I would be very reluctant if I was you too. Thanks for posting. (What else are you holding out on?) However, aside from this situation which is very unique. Whats the feeling or the latest on Joe Rubinstein? You are silly. I have posted this piece a dozen times online and it's probably in two or three threads on my own board. I like it better than the color version I just found online. www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=56971&GSub=7900Mine is a preliminary piece. Rich draws it all in normal pencil first. He goes back and draws with blue & black pencil to add all the shading. Steve Fastner then paints a painting based upon the piece I own. At Dragon Con, Rich doesn't setup with the comic artists. He sets up in the fine art section. When I go to Dragon Con I always make it a point to locate him in the art room. If Rubinstein was to ink this, we had already discussed that he'd not do it over the original. I assume that if he's drumming up work doing commissions, that he's not got any regular jobs lined up. Here's an interview... www.cardboardconnection.com/legendary-inkSo he got his first break by inking Michael Netzer's pencils (and showing it to Gerry Conway)... small world. Michael used to post on another message board where I was posting. df1
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Post by defiant1 on Jul 5, 2010 6:41:23 GMT -5
That's a pretty good interview
df1
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Post by bigw1966 on Jul 5, 2010 11:11:51 GMT -5
Damn defient that is one bad assed piece of artwork. I have always been a fan of Fastner and Larsens work. I would love to see the painted version of that.
Rubenstein is one of the best Inkers you could get. Recently I know he has been doing some work. I know some Marvel stuff and I am pretty sure he was inking a series for Dynamite. I wish my old addled brain could remember the titles as I saw them as recently as two months ago.
Problem though is a lot of inkers are losing work because many pencilers are so tight that they just adjust the levels enough to look inked.
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Post by defiant1 on Jul 5, 2010 13:11:13 GMT -5
I realize Joe is extremely talented. I was flattered that he contacted me. Not as flattered as when Lisa Ling wrote me, but still flattered. I started a thread of my art so as not to derail this thread further.
df1
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Post by G on Jul 5, 2010 21:49:27 GMT -5
Problem though is a lot of inkers are losing work because many pencilers are so tight that they just adjust the levels enough to look inked. That's sad. Honestly, that is. Although I fully understand the concept and appreciate artists can draw so tight and with today's computer technology, there is no need to employ an inker when one can just adjust black levels. In terms of saving money and time, sure...it works and I can understand the benefits. But once again, it seems to be creating short cuts where it takes out the beauty of collaboration. Just to add to my point. I fully trust you know how to make your art look great and could ink it just fine and I'm positive the work would be great and so on. The problem is, your style is your style and nothing wrong with that. It's just when you ink it, it is just sorta more of your style. Now if someone like Rubinstein came and inked your work, it would be a collaboration or your pencils with his inks and there is a transformation of a combined effort that would make it look different than what you could do alone or he could do alone. That's what is neat about artists and inkers in comics. Its like the pairing of the two creates effects and works all their own. Sorta like when Sinnott inked Kirby or Austin inked Bryne. The collaboration is better than individual pieces. The shortcut just kinda takes that facet away. Not that I wouldn't appreciate the original artist. Some artists can make me not care. Still, in MOST cases, I would rather see how one benefits the other.
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Post by G on Jul 5, 2010 21:54:01 GMT -5
I realize Joe is extremely talented. I was flattered that he contacted me. Not as flattered as when Lisa Ling wrote me, but still flattered. I started a thread of my art so as not to derail this thread further. df1 I would say it was accidental. Thanks for the thread of your own original art in it's own thread. It's good to see what this thread brought forth. We can still carry on about Mr. Rubinstein as news or thoughts develop.
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