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Post by Brother J on Nov 11, 2007 10:28:02 GMT -5
www.comicspriceguide.com/Here's a nice web site that can help with the pricing of your collection and also has a very strong message board. In fact, one of the strongest sub groups on this board was the Underground Comix forum, probably the most active discussion group of underground collectors that I am aware of.
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Post by G on Nov 11, 2007 21:39:02 GMT -5
I actually checked this one out a bit and it looked pretty huge. I wanted to check out the forums which have literally thousands of posts. It looked much bigger than valiantfans.com actually. I tried messing with the members list area so I could see how many people they had with over 1,000 posts. But it wouldnt let me unless I joined. Well, I registered and it said it would send me an email to my mailbox and it never did. I registered again and it said the same thing, but once again....I never received my password via email. That sucks for such a huge board.
Anyway, this board looks like it has it going on. A board with a lot of members and sites to look and learn. In reality, its like a dream board when you start with something like this. You hope your board will grow up and end up being something like that. But, that looks like a board that put in tons of hard work and earned it.
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Post by cfs on Nov 17, 2007 19:36:52 GMT -5
I actually checked this one out a bit and it looked pretty huge. I wanted to check out the forums which have literally thousands of posts. It looked much bigger than valiantfans.com actually. I tried messing with the members list area so I could see how many people they had with over 1,000 posts. But it wouldnt let me unless I joined. Well, I registered and it said it would send me an email to my mailbox and it never did. I registered again and it said the same thing, but once again....I never received my password via email. That sucks for such a huge board. Anyway, this board looks like it has it going on. A board with a lot of members and sites to look and learn. In reality, its like a dream board when you start with something like this. You hope your board will grow up and end up being something like that. But, that looks like a board that put in tons of hard work and earned it. I like the "no selling" aspect of the board, but you always have retailers disguising their motives and hyping their services anyway. Lurk for a few months and you'll see an endless repeat of people asking the same retarded questions about comic book supplies. I complained enough about being shafted by lonestar that an official rep showed up. Bingo... got the point driven home. A lot of fun people post there, but the people I like to read.. the knowledgeable ones seem to be burnt out and don't post regularly. I'm stuck rereading the same stuff from kids who know little about comics. I've avoided the place after my last fiasco with Michael Browning. He either can't read or he's an idiot. I'm leaning towards the idiot label. He continues to call Janet Jackson's color art "color guides". There is a different between her watercolor paintings and essentially a coloring book work with markers. Perhaps if people with a deeper knowledge get involved, I may participate more. For now, I'm going to avoid the idiots as much as possible. cfs |
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Post by Brother J on Nov 24, 2007 8:17:28 GMT -5
I guess the basic question is, was VALIANT fairly unique in that they did their coloring in a way that it was an art form in itself? As we know, the VALIANT color art pages were all hand painted. I'm assuming Marvel and DC didn't do their coloring in this way. I wonder if that's why people who don't understand what VALIANT did have some confusion with this. I know most "color art" I see for Marvel or DC books doesn't command near the attention (or prices) that VALIANT color art does.
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Post by G on Nov 24, 2007 11:43:44 GMT -5
You know I never did receive my Registration Password! For such a huge site, that kind of irks me.  |
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Post by cfs on Nov 24, 2007 12:29:24 GMT -5
I guess the basic question is, was VALIANT fairly unique in that they did their coloring in a way that it was an art form in itself? As we know, the VALIANT color art pages were all hand painted. I'm assuming Marvel and DC didn't do their coloring in this way. I wonder if that's why people who don't understand what VALIANT did have some confusion with this. I know most "color art" I see for Marvel or DC books doesn't command near the attention (or prices) that VALIANT color art does. Valiant specialized in one process that differed from what the big two were doing. In that regards, it does confuse people. There are a lot of different ways to get the image for the cover. Is what Valiant did unique? Only if you look at the exact process step for step. Dell had painted covers long ago, but they weren't watercolor paintings. They were more respectable paints so they don't get insulted by Michael. The problem Michael has is that he won't accept Janet is an artist in her own right. He thinks we are buying color art to get Lapham's work. I'm not. I'm buying it to get Janet's work. Janet is the one who gave the flame life on the cover to Harbinger #1. Janet is the one who painted the clouds so beautifully on War Dancer #1. Michael is just locked into his haughty little mindset that if it's not pen and ink... it's not original art. He's wrong. He took that stance once in the past year and after a few days he came back and apologized. I know that he went back and talked to his art dealers and they set him straight. The biggest down side to the color arts according to the professionals is that the Doc Martin water colors which provide the bright colors will fade under exposure to light. Charles Yoakum had a name for them He said as soon as the were completed they were all covered and stored away from light. They should not be displayed. All the color art pieces I own look beautiful. I do store them in the dark though. Most of the creators criticize the process at Defiant because the reproduction never looked as good in the comic as it did the original painting. You don't hear complaints about the same process at Valiant. Some say the copy machine at Defiant wasn't as good. I never mentioned this before, but some of the art Janet shipped me were in an envelope from the printer I'd assume. The envelope is dated 8/8/89. I haven't checked the dates, but that envelope even feels like a piece of history to me. BTW, Magnusr had griped about a page of color art I'd won on ebay. I essentially outbid him on everything. On the Valiant board I told him I'd give him the page if I ever parted with it. Since I'm downsizing my collection and I didn't want to get distracted and break my promise, I did indeed send him the piece I'd promised him. He wanted to pay me for it and I told him that was not necessary. He was to donate money to a charity of his choosing per our agreement. So Magnus #3 page #15 was mine... it's in his collection now. It was my favorite page in the Magnus series. Well... with the excewption of the lesbian kissing scene in Magnus #12... that was too funny. cfs |
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Post by cfs on Nov 24, 2007 12:34:14 GMT -5
You know I never did receive my Registration Password! For such a huge site, that kind of irks me. odd. Try a different email service like like fastmail.us. Hotmail may be filtering those types of messages as spam if they get a lot. Um... check your spam folder if you have one. Some people forget to do thator have the spam folder automatically deleted. cfs |
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Post by G on Nov 24, 2007 12:46:01 GMT -5
You know I never did receive my Registration Password! For such a huge site, that kind of irks me. odd. Try a different email service like like fastmail.us. Hotmail may be filtering those types of messages as spam if they get a lot. Um... check your spam folder if you have one. Some people forget to do thator have the spam folder automatically deleted. cfs I used a Yahoo email and did it twice and I did check my spam folder. Not there. I guess I will try registering again. This was like 10 days ago. I really wanted to check that place out a bit more. |
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Post by G on Nov 25, 2007 14:54:48 GMT -5
I FINALLY got settled in over there. Big site!
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Post by cfs on Nov 25, 2007 15:27:03 GMT -5
I FINALLY got settled in over there. Big site! I like reading post by Shadow or Earl. Rocket2600 is the Lightning Comics expert. He runs comiccovers.net. KingofRulers is the CGC expert, but he's young and doesn't know what it's like to have bought comics in 1975 from a spinner rack. Michael Browning pollutes the art category and occasionally drifts out when there is no activity there. He constantly directs people to comicartfans.com, so I see him as a spammer. Fuj is amusing as is Marcus. There are threads for people trying to complete company sets. cfs |
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