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Post by cyberstrike on Sept 21, 2010 15:33:54 GMT -5
Quote from The Bleed. While part of me is sad to it go another part me thinks it's thinks it's long overdue the WSU jumped the shark a long time ago and has been floating on the works of Alan Moore, Warren Ellis and Mark Millar (all of which was over 5-10 years ago) and they have been trying to recapture the magic of their work with little or no success. |
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Post by G on Sept 21, 2010 16:56:29 GMT -5
Great contribution thanks!!!
I was never into Wildstorm but I still would always look at their coming books to see if something would interest me. Nothing ever did. Even though its a bit sad another publisher bites the dust, I can't say I'm sorry to see them go. To be honest, I've thought a lot of those old original Image creation wings had it coming for a long time.
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Post by defiant1 on Sept 21, 2010 19:03:50 GMT -5
Great contribution thanks!!! I was never into Wildstorm but I still would always look at their coming books to see if something would interest me. Nothing ever did. Even though its a bit sad another publisher bites the dust, I can't say I'm sorry to see them go. To be honest, I've thought a lot of those old original Image creation wings had it coming for a long time. I don't call it biting the dust. DC has owned them for years. I don't care for any of that stuff. Moore won't work for DC or Marvel. DC purchasing Wildstorm is the reason he quit writing for them. df1 |
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Post by cyberstrike on Sept 21, 2010 19:20:31 GMT -5
Great contribution thanks!!! I was never into Wildstorm but I still would always look at their coming books to see if something would interest me. Nothing ever did. Even though its a bit sad another publisher bites the dust, I can't say I'm sorry to see them go. To be honest, I've thought a lot of those old original Image creation wings had it coming for a long time. I got tied of them around the time Jim Lee sold it to Time-Warner/DCE, my biggest complaint was about every character that wasn't an alien was part of a religious, covert government agency, plan, or conspiracy which kinda got old after a while. They did have some great stuff however. Deathblow #0 and Deathblow: Saints and Sinners TPB Deathblow vol. 1 #0-12 are a fun park your brains action thriller. Stormwatch vol. 1 #37-50 If you like The T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents then you will love Ellis' take on these characters! It is great ride with a lots of twists and turns along the way. Stormwatch vol. 2 Preview, #1-11 A decent follow up but lacks the direction that worked in vol. 1, plus it's ending is some what realistic but it's also kinda of down beat. Aliens/Wild C.A.T.s #1 an inter-company crossover that actually has serious effects on the WSU and Stormwatch vol. 2 in particular read after in-between Stormwatch vol. 2 #10 and #11. Alan Moore's run Wild C.A.T.s vol. 1 Leave it to Alan Moore to something cool that no one could ever top. Great contribution thanks!!! I was never into Wildstorm but I still would always look at their coming books to see if something would interest me. Nothing ever did. Even though its a bit sad another publisher bites the dust, I can't say I'm sorry to see them go. To be honest, I've thought a lot of those old original Image creation wings had it coming for a long time. I don't call it biting the dust. DC has owned them for years. I don't care for any of that stuff. Moore won't work for DC or Marvel. DC purchasing Wildstorm is the reason he quit writing for them. df1 Moore actually did work for WS after the DC bought them the whole America's Best Comics (or ABC) line was published after DC bought WS. IIRC Jim Lee promised Moore that DC would not interfere with Moore's WS work and his ABC line, unfortunately when Moore wrote a story for an ABC title that made a reference to Ron Hubbard the founder of Scientology DC said refused to print it, even though another book was published under their Paradox Press imprint before Moore wrote his story did make a reference to Hubbard. After that Moore worked off his contract and after Prometha #32 he left DC/WS. |
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Post by G on Sept 21, 2010 23:46:47 GMT -5
I don't call it biting the dust. DC has owned them for years. Yeah, I know. Perhaps I should have said ceasing to publish under their own name instead of biting the dust. Whenever I preordered, they were always listed under DC as sorta a sub-division. But like I said, anytime I looked, it just didn't have anything that looked appealing. I was always interested more in the DC stuff. The Wildstorm stuff looked like a total departure. I think it is better that they just become part of the overall DC Universe as a whole instead of a separate entity. There is probably more to work with that way. |
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Post by defiant1 on Sept 22, 2010 21:00:46 GMT -5
Moore actually did work for WS after the DC bought them the whole America's Best Comics (or ABC) line was published after DC bought WS. IIRC Jim Lee promised Moore that DC would not interfere with Moore's WS work and his ABC line, unfortunately when Moore wrote a story for an ABC title that made a reference to Ron Hubbard the founder of Scientology DC said refused to print it, even though another book was published under their Paradox Press imprint before Moore wrote his story did make a reference to Hubbard. After that Moore worked off his contract and after Prometha #32 he left DC/WS. I could be wrong, but I thought Moore worked out his contract and that was it. I don't recall that working arrangement ever being extended. I admire Moore for his principles even if I don't care for his writing. I also think DC would have been wise to refuse to publish a story about Ron Hubbard. The church of Scientology is very litigious. I wouldn't put it past Moore to go out of his way to push the wrong buttons and create a dispute where there was none. He describes himself as an anarchist and that is in line with what I'd expect an anarchist to do. df1 |
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Post by defiant1 on Sept 22, 2010 21:10:24 GMT -5
I don't call it biting the dust. DC has owned them for years. Yeah, I know. Perhaps I should have said ceasing to publish under their own name instead of biting the dust. Whenever I preordered, they were always listed under DC as sorta a sub-division. But like I said, anytime I looked, it just didn't have anything that looked appealing. I was always interested more in the DC stuff. The Wildstorm stuff looked like a total departure. I think it is better that they just become part of the overall DC Universe as a whole instead of a separate entity. There is probably more to work with that way. For me, the two are opposite extremes and both representing exactly what I don't want from comics. I see DC comics as bad sci-fi with a family oriented product. I see Image as flashy shallow product catering to males going through puberty. I also think the Wildstorm/Image art is poorly drawn despite being clean and flashy. It's all cookie cutter poses. Merging the two makes me laugh. df1 |
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Post by bigw1966 on Sept 24, 2010 7:58:43 GMT -5
Paul Levitz destroyed WILDSTORM.
Wildstorm always produced more adult oriented comics darker, edgier, etc; Levitz kept cutting their balls off. He is directly involved with Moore leaving his ABC line.
He caused the BOYS (WILDSTORM's biggest seller to leave and go to Dynamite.
He Neutered AUTHORITY and turned it into the exact parody that it was originally parodying.
He stopped Morrison from re-booting W.I.L.D.cats with Jim Lee to have him reboot the DCU
He cancelled the Gears of War comic which was actually the highest selling from Publisher Licensed comic on the market.
He basically tried to turn WILDSTORM into a clone of DC central and the characters do not work in that environment.
Paul Levitz. the buck stops there.
also Tom, just a couple of great titles from Wildstorm that you probably would have enjoyed were...
ASTRO CITY put out through the Homage wing.
EX MACHINA GREAT! GREAT! Comic. completely original.
They had their titles, but much of it got pushed to the wayside long ago, and Lee was pulled away from his position as executive editor long ago.
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Post by cyberstrike on Sept 24, 2010 11:57:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I know. Perhaps I should have said ceasing to publish under their own name instead of biting the dust. Whenever I preordered, they were always listed under DC as sorta a sub-division. But like I said, anytime I looked, it just didn't have anything that looked appealing. I was always interested more in the DC stuff. The Wildstorm stuff looked like a total departure. I think it is better that they just become part of the overall DC Universe as a whole instead of a separate entity. There is probably more to work with that way. For me, the two are opposite extremes and both representing exactly what I don't want from comics. I see DC comics as bad sci-fi with a family oriented product. I see Image as flashy shallow product catering to males going through puberty. I also think the Wildstorm/Image art is poorly drawn despite being clean and flashy. It's all cookie cutter poses. Merging the two makes me laugh. df1 Considering that WSU heroes are more brutal, darker, edgier, polictal, and controversal. So yeah I can see Apollo and Midnighter two gay married superheroes who will and has killed to achive their goals, would get along great with Batman and Superman. |
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