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Post by G on Nov 16, 2011 19:29:07 GMT -5
Eh, I feel like this kind of thing happens a bit and when I see it on Comic Fandom sites, I don't think much of it. I still don't think much of this one either but it kind of caught my eye that Yahoo felt it was newsworthy. I figure this copy had to be pretty low grade to only be valued at $15,000. $15,000 comic book stolen from Nebraska homenews.yahoo.com/15-000-comic-book-stolen-nebraska-home-121113449.htmlLINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — A rare Spider-Man comic book valued at $15,000 has been stolen from a home in Lincoln, Neb. The Lincoln Journal Star reports (http://bit.ly/tDR7az ) the comic "Amazing Fantasy No. 15" is the first appearance of Spider-Man and sold for 12 cents in 1962. Nearly 50 years later, it sells for thousands of dollars and in May, an unnamed buyer purchased a mint condition copy for more than $1 million. The owner of the stolen comic believes it was taken between Oct. 27 and Monday morning.
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Post by defiant1 on Nov 17, 2011 1:14:29 GMT -5
I'm happy with mine. I don't want his. df1
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Post by bigw1966 on Nov 18, 2011 11:00:13 GMT -5
I almost paid $1500 for one about 5 years ago. Kinda wish I would have.
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Post by defiant1 on Nov 18, 2011 18:29:49 GMT -5
I traded about 40 Valiant comic duplicates for mine back when they were hot. It was graded as a good at the time. All in all I had about $300 in the books I traded. The dealer who traded it had no customers at his table until he made the trade. He sold all the Valiant books I traded in the last hour of the show. I was happy. He was happy. His customers were happy.
df1
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Post by G on Nov 18, 2011 20:01:47 GMT -5
I traded about 40 Valiant comic duplicates for mine back when they were hot. It was graded as a good at the time. All in all I had about $300 in the books I traded. The dealer who traded it had no customers at his table until he made the trade. He sold all the Valiant books I traded in the last hour of the show. I was happy. He was happy. His customers were happy. Although not quite the same book, that's pretty much how I got my Avengers #4. I was doing shows and had realized Valiant was on its way out. I had tons of them. I was blowing my stock out and making trades. My copy is about a VG- with nice eye appeal. I traded approximately $200 in Valiants for it. 6 months later you couldn't give those Valiants away and I had a pretty decent key book. Sometimes I miss trading with dealers more than anything else. I may not have a lot of massive high dollar books but I think I have literally tons of minor to major keys and a lot of it I have duplicates if not more copies. One day I'm going to make a nice stash out of my duplicates and take them to a show and see if I can wheel and deal. Back before I had money it was the way I made moves. Now I view it as a way to get a decent book without paying the cash and not being hurt by the books I lose. They key I found was to not have any junk in your stuff. Let all the books you bring be good book that anybody would potentially want. Used to be dealers would look almost bored when you asked "you doing any trades?" and they put their hand out and you'd see their eyes light up as they start looking through their stuff. Most other people would have common junk fodder or current hot shit that all the dealers had. I made it a point to have key books to trade. It was rare a dealer would go through my stack and not want something. Often they would make a stack and then say "what are you looking to get?". It was loads of fun. I'm going to consider doing this one day in the not too distant future. Don't know how I'll do but it'll be good to have the experience again one way or another.
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Post by G on Nov 18, 2011 20:18:54 GMT -5
I almost paid $1500 for one about 5 years ago. Kinda wish I would have. $1500 today would rate a pretty piss poor copy I would think. Back then, maybe not too shabby lower grade copy but still respectable looking book. I think it could of been a decent investment. Lets say you got a GD or a GD+ for $1500. I wouldn't think that wouldnt have been too far fetched back then maybe even a bit nicer. According to my 2010 Price Guide (I didn't get the 2011 book) a GD guides for $3000 and a VG for $6000. So lets say a GD+ would be about $4500. Would seem reasonable to think the book would be worth twice as much now as when you bought it. If not more. And still allowing room for undercutting if necessary to make it move and still with a handsome profit. Just took a quick gander at Ebay and the prices seem to be in line with that. www.ebay.com/sch/Comics-/63/i.html?_nkw=Amazing+Fantasy+%2315&_catref=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m1538I know its hard to plunk down $1500 for a book (I've never paid over $100 yet. ) But on a book like this at a price like that, it might be worth it to pull the trigger. And even if you don't sell it, you still have an Amazing Fantasy #15. Something I wish I had....
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Post by defiant1 on Nov 19, 2011 0:00:37 GMT -5
I traded about 40 Valiant comic duplicates for mine back when they were hot. It was graded as a good at the time. All in all I had about $300 in the books I traded. The dealer who traded it had no customers at his table until he made the trade. He sold all the Valiant books I traded in the last hour of the show. I was happy. He was happy. His customers were happy. Although not quite the same book, that's pretty much how I got my Avengers #4. I was doing shows and had realized Valiant was on its way out. I had tons of them. I was blowing my stock out and making trades. My copy is about a VG- with nice eye appeal. I traded approximately $200 in Valiants for it. 6 months later you couldn't give those Valiants away and I had a pretty decent key book. Sometimes I miss trading with dealers more than anything else. I may not have a lot of massive high dollar books but I think I have literally tons of minor to major keys and a lot of it I have duplicates if not more copies. One day I'm going to make a nice stash out of my duplicates and take them to a show and see if I can wheel and deal. Back before I had money it was the way I made moves. Now I view it as a way to get a decent book without paying the cash and not being hurt by the books I lose. They key I found was to not have any junk in your stuff. Let all the books you bring be good book that anybody would potentially want. Used to be dealers would look almost bored when you asked "you doing any trades?" and they put their hand out and you'd see their eyes light up as they start looking through their stuff. Most other people would have common junk fodder or current hot shit that all the dealers had. I made it a point to have key books to trade. It was rare a dealer would go through my stack and not want something. Often they would make a stack and then say "what are you looking to get?". It was loads of fun. I'm going to consider doing this one day in the not too distant future. Don't know how I'll do but it'll be good to have the experience again one way or another. The back issue market is so deflated, I don't think a dealers eyes would light up anymore. They don't need anything you got, so it'd just be how bad they can screw you out of something neat. df1
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Post by defiant1 on Nov 19, 2011 0:17:36 GMT -5
I'd have to have $100,000 in the bank before I'd consider paying $5000 for any comic. It'd have to be something on par with AF 15 if I did. The most I ever paid cash for a book was $600. but it was more like a trade. I took a box of Valiant and sold it for $600 and rushed across town to buy a Hulk #1 in the last 15 minutes of a show. There was no cash out of my pocket, I just let the profit go into a better book.
The most I ever paid cash that did hit my bank account was the Tales to Astonish #1. That was $400 plus I missed a day of work because the assholes made me sign for the package. That pissed me off more than if it'd been stolen at my doorstep. I value my time more than I do my money.
I paid I think $100 & maybe $125 for my 2 X-Men #1's. I paid somewhere near $300 for a set of Tales to Astonish that included the 1st Wasp and 1st Antman and maybe one or two more books from the series.
I paid $100 each for a couple of Strange Tales #110's in low grade.
I've got a lot of shit, but I'm definitely not a high roller in the comics world.
df1
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Post by G on Nov 19, 2011 9:06:40 GMT -5
The back issue market is so deflated, I don't think a dealers eyes would light up anymore. They don't need anything you got, so it'd just be how bad they can screw you out of something neat. Probably true, but if I go in with the feeling that all the comics I bring are expendable, I don't really have to feel like I'm getting rooked if I set my eyes on a book and can manage to get a dealer to trade for it. Its all perspective and gameplan really. I wouldn't allow myself to get flimflammed. However, it does seem like dealers no longer do trades like they used to. I remember when I was a kid my dad dropped me off at a mall show and $20. I remember buying one comic and then going from dealer to dealer and trading. I was there all day and did this all day. When my dad picked me up I had a stack of old decent Silver Age comics. Even my dad was impressed. Those were fun days. At the last Richmond show I seen a dude try and trade with a dealer and the dealer was looking at his books. I didn't stick around to see how it turned out but it struck me as odd that it felt like it had been a long time since I seen this occurrence happening. I used to have to stand in line to show a dealer my books before. Now no one does it.
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Post by defiant1 on Nov 19, 2011 19:10:41 GMT -5
The back issue market is so deflated, I don't think a dealers eyes would light up anymore. They don't need anything you got, so it'd just be how bad they can screw you out of something neat. Probably true, but if I go in with the feeling that all the comics I bring are expendable, I don't really have to feel like I'm getting rooked if I set my eyes on a book and can manage to get a dealer to trade for it. Its all perspective and gameplan really. I wouldn't allow myself to get flimflammed. However, it does seem like dealers no longer do trades like they used to. I remember when I was a kid my dad dropped me off at a mall show and $20. I remember buying one comic and then going from dealer to dealer and trading. I was there all day and did this all day. When my dad picked me up I had a stack of old decent Silver Age comics. Even my dad was impressed. Those were fun days. At the last Richmond show I seen a dude try and trade with a dealer and the dealer was looking at his books. I didn't stick around to see how it turned out but it struck me as odd that it felt like it had been a long time since I seen this occurrence happening. I used to have to stand in line to show a dealer my books before. Now no one does it. Trades are only worthwhile to a dealer if they are getting a book that's easy to sell. If they have customers with something you've got on their want list... they'd be stupid not to trade at 100% guide value. If they've had a Defenders #1 on their display wall that's been ignored for 2 years by their customers, then it might as well be some crappy indy book nobody has heard of. I had a friend that worked at a comic shop. He quit because he knew the owner was a jerk. He knew that whenever the rent was due, the owner would call up the store and ask how much cash the store had in the register. The employee would have to take the money out of the register so the owner could pick it up and deposit it. The employees had to listen to a long degrading speech if there wasn't enough money in the register to cover rent. So after my friend quit, he'd call up the employee working in the store on the day rent was due. He'd ask the employee how much money they needed to keep the owner off their back. If it was $400, he'd bring in $400 and say.. "Make me a deal". He would cherry pick the best stuff and pay a quarter of what it was worth. The employee was so overjoyed that they made their sales quota and the owner was off their back. I think he did that for close to a year once a month. it got to where the store didn't have anything that he even wanted anymore. As the best stuff sold, the harder it was for the store to make rent money. That just meant he brought MORE money and insisted on an even BETTER deal. df1
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