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Post by cfs on May 20, 2008 3:23:57 GMT -5
damn Joey, I was sitting there watching that David Lapham art on Harbinger #1 and thinking it was incredibly low. So, I put it on watch to see how it turned out. Even though the price had doubled in the last hour, I still felt the price was low. And then I seen the winner was you. Nice snag Joey! This is the original art to Harbinger #1!! One of the most key comics in the last 20 years.Original art from the book that launched Valiant into the limelight for a few short years and will be remembered always for the Pre-Unity stories as a special time in comics history. $300 for a page out of that book was a bargain!! I thought about bidding but decided against it. I don't think Harbinger will be remembered as the next Spiderman. Not to the general public. If it is, I can always tell the story about the time I had a chance but didn't go for it. cfs
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Post by cfs on May 20, 2008 3:26:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I dont know much about original art and especially how to price it...but I knew that had to be low! I was even tempted to put a bid on it but I kept thinking something must be wrong for it to be that low. You just got a little slice of history there for $300....man, I knew that was a steal! I'm kinda tired of buying art. I'm not going to display it, so it just fills up my closet Saw "Unbreakable" last night. The scene with Samuel Jackson refusing to sell comic art to a man was funny. cfs
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Post by comickings on May 20, 2008 5:58:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I dont know much about original art and especially how to price it...but I knew that had to be low! I was even tempted to put a bid on it but I kept thinking something must be wrong for it to be that low. You just got a little slice of history there for $300....man, I knew that was a steal! I'm kinda tired of buying art. I'm not going to display it, so it just fills up my closet Saw "Unbreakable" last night. The scene with Samuel Jackson refusing to sell comic art to a man was funny. cfs I know what you mean! Sometimes I look through my stuff and ask myself,why in the hell did you spend that for this?! Just so it can just sit here in the portfolio.
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Post by G on May 20, 2008 9:09:19 GMT -5
I'm kinda tired of buying art. I'm not going to display it, so it just fills up my closet Saw "Unbreakable" last night. The scene with Samuel Jackson refusing to sell comic art to a man was funny. cfs I know what you mean! Sometimes I look through my stuff and ask myself,why in the hell did you spend that for this?! Just so it can just sit here in the portfolio. Does it really sit in your portfolio or do you wind up selling it for profit sometime down the road? And if you havent sold it yet are you just waiting for the right conditions to put it up for sale? I know I wish I had some of the pieces you have. Some may stay awhile, but most of it seems like good flip material to me.
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Post by cfs on May 20, 2008 11:11:32 GMT -5
Does anything truly have value if all collectors want to do is flip it? Those are the things I don't want in my collection anymore.
Do people really want Chaos Effect Alpha Red, or do they want it so they can say they have it and others don't? That's kind of shallow criteria if so. That's also why I'm picky about which rarities I do buy.
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Post by G on May 20, 2008 12:08:57 GMT -5
Does anything truly have value if all collectors want to do is flip it? Those are the things I don't want in my collection anymore. Do people really want Chaos Effect Alpha Red, or do they want it so they can say they have it and others don't? That's kind of shallow criteria if so. That's also why I'm picky about which rarities I do buy. defiant1 Yeah, this is where the collector/investor/fanboy/speculator differences kick in. Ive personally never seen anything wrong with it unless a dealer is just plain gouging and not offering a fair price for a product, but lets face it, these businesses are in it to make money and profits. You dont expect a dealer to buy and sell it to you later at or below cost. The difference is a collector would buy it, treasure it and keep it forever until the day they die. The investor/fanboy/speculator will buy with the intent to sell at profit later. We all buy from somebody and usually whoever we bought from was seeking profit. You cant really be a collector without buying off a speculator/investor. If you didnt have people looking to flip, you wouldnt have product out there to buy like we do. Comics is Capitalism at its finest.
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Post by cfs on May 20, 2008 14:30:39 GMT -5
Does anything truly have value if all collectors want to do is flip it? Those are the things I don't want in my collection anymore. Do people really want Chaos Effect Alpha Red, or do they want it so they can say they have it and others don't? That's kind of shallow criteria if so. That's also why I'm picky about which rarities I do buy. cfs Yeah, this is where the collector/investor/fanboy/speculator differences kick in. Ive personally never seen anything wrong with it unless a dealer is just plain gouging and not offering a fair price for a product, but lets face it, these businesses are in it to make money and profits. You dont expect a dealer to buy and sell it to you later at or below cost. The difference is a collector would buy it, treasure it and keep it forever until the day they die. The investor/fanboy/speculator will buy with the intent to sell at profit later. We all buy from somebody and usually whoever we bought from was seeking profit. You cant really be a collector without buying off a speculator/investor. If you didnt have people looking to flip, you wouldnt have product out there to buy like we do. Comics is Capitalism at its finest. To me it's the difference between buying/investing in Enron (hype) or investing in something with a rock solid value to people. People are free to spend money how they please, but give me something with a little more substance driving the market. Nothing wrong with flipping. There is something potentially wrong when you are gambling with something that has no substance to justify justify the money. cfs
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Post by whetteon on May 26, 2008 14:46:41 GMT -5
Does anything truly have value if all collectors want to do is flip it? Those are the things I don't want in my collection anymore. Do people really want Chaos Effect Alpha Red, or do they want it so they can say they have it and others don't? That's kind of shallow criteria if so. That's also why I'm picky about which rarities I do buy. defiant1 Yeah, this is where the collector/investor/fanboy/speculator differences kick in. Ive personally never seen anything wrong with it unless a dealer is just plain gouging and not offering a fair price for a product, but lets face it, these businesses are in it to make money and profits. You dont expect a dealer to buy and sell it to you later at or below cost. The difference is a collector would buy it, treasure it and keep it forever until the day they die. The investor/fanboy/speculator will buy with the intent to sell at profit later. We all buy from somebody and usually whoever we bought from was seeking profit. You cant really be a collector without buying off a speculator/investor. If you didnt have people looking to flip, you wouldnt have product out there to buy like we do. Comics is Capitalism at its finest. Beautifully said! Brings a tear to my eye. ;D
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Post by whetteon on May 26, 2008 15:00:26 GMT -5
This is the original art to Harbinger #1!! One of the most key comics in the last 20 years.Original art from the book that launched Valiant into the limelight for a few short years and will be remembered always for the Pre-Unity stories as a special time in comics history. $300 for a page out of that book was a bargain!! I thought about bidding but decided against it. I don't think Harbinger will be remembered as the next Spiderman. Not to the general public. If it is, I can always tell the story about the time I had a chance but didn't go for it. cfs All three of your remarks are exactly what I was thinking about that original art. Glad Joey won so at least the art stays with someone who has an appreciation for the pieces but $300 per page? Come one people, the book itself is currently selling for $100+ raw. That's almost giving it away. I didn't bid myself because I realize that I'm a COMIC collector and not an art collector. I own both a solar #0 page and wonder woman #200 page and neither brings me true joy like the comic itself does so I couldn't bring myself to bid but it's also a little sad to see that these pages didn't go for a tad more.
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Post by cfs on May 26, 2008 17:16:32 GMT -5
Exactly. I'm a comic collector. Unlike a lot of people, I don't want comic art on my walls replacing a real painting. I have one utterly offensive Brunetti piece cheaply framed and hanging on my wall. It makes me laugh. At most I might want a book of art where you can flip pages from a stand. When I buy art, it's more just to have a piece to say I have it. On the other hand, if Budd Root ever gets a Cavewoman movie made I should have some early pieces worth $$$. I picked some of his work for a bargain.
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