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Post by bigw1966 on Jan 27, 2010 10:38:20 GMT -5
Hey thanks man. I'm glad you like it. I don't like much of my work. I tend to pick it apart to much. I have that problem with pages also. I will finish one and then decide I don't like the pacing so I erase half of the page. Last night I decided I didn't like part of the page I was working on and drew another Idea on a piece of paper. I decided to remove two panels and move another one over so I could insert the new panel. It flows better, but I am always doing that crap.
Regarding the site, I like the background you use here. It has an urban/Industrial feel that I find appealing.
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Post by defiant1 on Jan 27, 2010 20:24:36 GMT -5
Hey thanks man. I'm glad you like it. I don't like much of my work. I tend to pick it apart to much. I have that problem with pages also. I will finish one and then decide I don't like the pacing so I erase half of the page. Last night I decided I didn't like part of the page I was working on and drew another Idea on a piece of paper. I decided to remove two panels and move another one over so I could insert the new panel. It flows better, but I am always doing that crap. Regarding the site, I like the background you use here. It has an urban/Industrial feel that I find appealing. I think you gotta get to the point that you are pumping them out. One thing I learned about drawing (from my limited experience) is that you can over think it and it slows down your natural flow with the pencil. df1
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Post by bigw1966 on Jan 28, 2010 11:29:26 GMT -5
Hey thanks man. I'm glad you like it. I don't like much of my work. I tend to pick it apart to much. I have that problem with pages also. I will finish one and then decide I don't like the pacing so I erase half of the page. Last night I decided I didn't like part of the page I was working on and drew another Idea on a piece of paper. I decided to remove two panels and move another one over so I could insert the new panel. It flows better, but I am always doing that crap. Regarding the site, I like the background you use here. It has an urban/Industrial feel that I find appealing. I think you gotta get to the point that you are pumping them out. One thing I learned about drawing (from my limited experience) is that you can over think it and it slows down your natural flow with the pencil. df1 Well I do "pump the sketches out. But I don't do to many roughs to get the composition the way I feel it should be. So I have to go back sometimes. Pages, It comes down to storytelling. The page I mentioned above is the beginning of the action part of the story so I had to establish where the bad guys were at in relation to the main character. It came to me right as I was finishing the page. Even following a script you sometimes come to the conclusion that you can either limit the amount of panels, or you may need to add a panel or two to help the script flow better. Thats what happened with me. I do have a sketch that I did last night, that I will post here in a little while. There are a couple of details I want to mess with first.
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Post by bigw1966 on Jan 29, 2010 0:04:35 GMT -5
OK. Sorry I didn't get this up. I got busy and this is the first chance I had. This image is a modernized version of the superheroes me, waltrip and FHC and our friend Renato created in Junior High School. In the back is my character Apollo. This is what he does look like now. On the right is Sunburst by FHC. I didn't change much. I did make the mask a little more angular and put burst lines in the mask. I always liked how the character looked so why change it. On the left is the Spark by Renato. I just took complete liberty with this character. Mainly because other than the comic book eyes he was just a unisex body. So I decided to start by making him a brawler. Which is fitting because Renato always liked to fight I made the mask a helmet and gave him a uniform with some boots and wrist guards. Up front is gowaltrips character, Stingray. I did take a few liberties. His uniform was always plain so I made it dark but figured that since he casts energy he could have glowing arms that are just crackling. I updated the mask a little with the antenna's and the design on the mask. The funny thing I noticed with our characters, is me and FHC have sun based heroes, and Stingray and Spark are like Electrical powered. That was why I made Spark a brawler type. Anyhow I hope you like it. I had some fun drawing it. Flashing back.
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Post by Wrecks on Jan 29, 2010 6:49:48 GMT -5
Neat. Looks like the 4 are ready to kick some ass!
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Post by G on Jan 29, 2010 7:17:45 GMT -5
Looks pretty hot Mike, I like it. The updated modern look is pretty sweet. I love how you streamlined Sunburst's mask. I don't think it's exactly fair to say mine was plain. I prefer to think it needed updating. Back in the day I had the visor, the antennae, the gloves and the boots, it just never got out of it's 80s appearance. I often wanted to update the look. I would probably use about 90% of what you have and say I like it a lot. It's something I couldn't come up with on my own.
I always thought Renato's Spark was the plain one. It was a pure white uniform with comic character eyes. Occasionally I remember him drawing the Spark with Ninja Stars, that was about the only accessory I seen him use. I always considered Spark as the Hand to Hand Mortal Kombat type specialist. Although I like what you've done, I almost like his update the least. Only because it is a bit too different. It's a nice update, but maybe I'm not found of the helmet look or something. It was always a smooth transition from head to toe with him and seeing lines around his neck is a bit too different for me.
All in all, I think the picture is hot though. Don't get me wrong. It sorta feels like that is the way it would have been if none of us ever quit. It would be like this today. And that part, I really like about it.
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Post by bigw1966 on Jan 29, 2010 9:57:49 GMT -5
Hey glad you liked it dude. I was fighting my continually crashing PC while trying to write the post,. What I meant to write was that Stingray had a very basic look back in the day. Black uniform gloves and boots. rectangular visor . So I just updated the mask by putting some detail into the actaul antennas and adding the lightning type lines to the area above the visor which I also made rounder and more streamlined. I thought it would look cool if the energy was taking shape throughout his body also.
I was thinking of coloring this piece in just for the practice.
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Post by G on Jan 29, 2010 19:53:03 GMT -5
What I meant to write was that Stingray had a very basic look back in the day. Black uniform gloves and boots. rectangular visor . So I just updated the mask by putting some detail into the actaul antennas and adding the lightning type lines to the area above the visor which I also made rounder and more streamlined. I thought it would look cool if the energy was taking shape throughout his body also.. That's just it. Stingray never had a black uniform....ever. His uniform was typically yellow with some blue highlights sorta old X-Men uni-styles. I'm not too wild about the visor. Its shape is a bit too rounded for me. Kinda Ford Taurus like and it's not sitting too well with me. The rest is pretty alright, I dig it. It's a nice overall picture of all our characters updated. But, I don't dig the visor much. It's sorta like if I took your character and changed it around. 1st of all, I can't draw as well as you can, but if I started making changes that didn't quite fit your vision, you know you would feel the same way. I appreciate the piece, don't get me wrong. It's awesome. I'm just not sure I dig all the changes. But I realize this is just one viewpoint. I respect what you did with it. It's better than what I could do.
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Post by defiant1 on Jan 29, 2010 20:55:36 GMT -5
I think you gotta get to the point that you are pumping them out. One thing I learned about drawing (from my limited experience) is that you can over think it and it slows down your natural flow with the pencil. df1 Well I do "pump the sketches out. But I don't do to many roughs to get the composition the way I feel it should be. So I have to go back sometimes. Pages, It comes down to storytelling. The page I mentioned above is the beginning of the action part of the story so I had to establish where the bad guys were at in relation to the main character. It came to me right as I was finishing the page. Even following a script you sometimes come to the conclusion that you can either limit the amount of panels, or you may need to add a panel or two to help the script flow better. Thats what happened with me. I do have a sketch that I did last night, that I will post here in a little while. There are a couple of details I want to mess with first. Have you ever taken a professional (big name) writer's script and tried to draw a story based upon that? The reason I ask is that Jim Shooter's scripts are very detailed. He used to provide photo references... the works. Some artist don't like that, but after reading you Toth post, I guess the artists I like have some respect for it. I usually don't send people to this site because they are posting a misformated version of my old html without my permission, but here is page where I married unpublished panels to an unpublished script. You get to see how precise Jim Shooter described a scene and you get to see how J.G. Jones drew the panel. www.shooterswork.com/mirror/broadway/Scripts/Fatale_0_pg01_02.htmlAlso, if you don't own "The Kirby Collector" magazines, one of those has an incredible piece on how Kirby laid out the pages controlling where the eye moved from panel to panel. He had a pattern to how he made the eye zig-zag across the page. Definitely worth tracking down the issue I saw. I wished I'd bought it. df1
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Post by defiant1 on Jan 29, 2010 21:03:47 GMT -5
Great proportions on that piece above. In some ways, I'm outgrowing superheroes. Some of the costumes and adornments look really uncomfortable.
Defiant1
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