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Hulk
Apr 8, 2009 22:08:53 GMT -5
Post by G on Apr 8, 2009 22:08:53 GMT -5
Who knows what is going on with the Hulk?
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Hulk
Jan 29, 2010 10:29:42 GMT -5
Post by bigw1966 on Jan 29, 2010 10:29:42 GMT -5
As long as Jeph Loeb is on this book I will not read it.
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Hulk
Apr 10, 2010 16:30:24 GMT -5
Post by cyberstrike on Apr 10, 2010 16:30:24 GMT -5
From what I gathered so far: After the Illuminati banished Bruce Banner/Hulk to alien planet just before the Civil War, on that planet Banner and Hulk became separate beings.
It appears that each fathered a child the Hulk fathered Skaar and Banner fathered Draken (I think that his name) Skaar's mom got killed and the Hulk was unaware of Skaar's birth, and came back to Earth to get even with the Illuminati he "killed" Black Bolt (who turned out to be a Skrull).
Skaar took over and ruled the world until he got zapped to Earth where he meets Banner who wants him to kill the Green Hulk.
Draken learns that his planet has something called "Old Energy" in it and energy source that makes Galactus addicted he gives his world to Galactus if he becomes his herald. He does and quickly leaves Galactus to his own devices.
General Ross apparently created a Red Hulk to finally beat the Green Hulk. The two hulks and fought and the Green Hulk won and Ross disavowed the Red Hulk and left him for dead. Only he wasn't dead.
A savage She-Hulk arrives from the future claiming to be the Green Hulk's daughter. Jen Walters (the original She-Hulk) takes her under her wing and tries to mentor her. Jen gets in a fight with Samson and disappears The Savage She-Hulk goes on a rampage to find her father and brothers.
A Red She-Hulk also appears to cause more confusion.
Now it looks like The Leader and MODOCK have been behind the whole thing are setting the Hulks up for a war with "hulk-ed up" versions of other Marvel super-heroes (namely Spider-Man, Deadpool, and Wolverine from the promo art).
If Marvel got rid of the Red Hulk and Red She-Hulk and send the "Savage" She-Hulk back to the future, and got rid of his sons I might be willing to buy the book again. Otherwise I don't give a fuck.
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Hulk
Apr 11, 2010 10:27:25 GMT -5
Post by G on Apr 11, 2010 10:27:25 GMT -5
The synopsis you give seems decently interesting, but I agree. I think Red Hulk was interesting for a concept for about the first 6 times I seen it, then the novelty wore off. Skaar seemed to last half that time. I was never a fan of Hulk being banished to an Alien planet either. I know people chime in that Hulk is a really strong title, but every time I see it, I don't care to know much. I've picked up bits and drabs in the past couple of years, but the single issues I had I couldn't stand. Yeah, maybe if I had the whole story I might feel a bit differently. Maybe so, but it seems a bit too complex if I can't get into the single issues on their own. While you simplified your description and I understand it and thanks for the rundown. In reality, it seems without your description, to be a tale that takes a lot to follow.
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Hulk
Apr 11, 2010 18:39:38 GMT -5
Post by cyberstrike on Apr 11, 2010 18:39:38 GMT -5
I'm not even reading any of the Hulk books, this is just stuff I read online, or gleamed through single issues, TPBs and hardcovers.
I remember reading on Peter David's website (or in an interview with him) that the reason why Marvel banished the Hulk was so he couldn't be in the Civil War because he was too strong.
If the Hulk joined Captain America's side in the Civil War Cap's side would win, and if he joined Iron Man's side in the Civil War Iron Man's side would win. Because no one else could beat the Hulk in fight.
I think the Hulk has really gotten to the point in the Marvel Universe that really is no one stronger than he is. I mean back in old days Ben Grimm might have been able to beat him but now of days I think Hulk would beat Grimm without breaking a sweat.
Personally I don't like the Green Hulk's kids, the Red Hulk, the Red and new savage She-Hulks. They are just way to much and don't help new readers to understand the series.
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Hulk
Apr 12, 2010 10:42:04 GMT -5
Post by bigw1966 on Apr 12, 2010 10:42:04 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the Planet Hulk storyline. quite literally one of the best Hulk stories in years. The cartoon is an excellent if somewhat compressed version of the story. There is a link on this site to where you can watch it.
WWHULK was also a cool story of Revenge for Hulk. But Jeph Loeb just seems to have lost his sanity following the death of his son. His writing has just gone down the tubes, This Red Hulk shit is just that.
At least to me.
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Hulk
Apr 12, 2010 18:53:23 GMT -5
Post by cyberstrike on Apr 12, 2010 18:53:23 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the Planet Hulk storyline. quite literally one of the best Hulk stories in years. The cartoon is an excellent if somewhat compressed version of the story. There is a link on this site to where you can watch it. WWHULK was also a cool story of Revenge for Hulk. But Jeph Loeb just seems to have lost his sanity following the death of his son. His writing has just gone down the tubes, This Red Hulk shit is just that. At least to me. My fear is that the whole Red Hulk thing will turn into the Hulk's version of The Clone Saga. |
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Hulk
Apr 12, 2010 21:38:53 GMT -5
Post by defiant1 on Apr 12, 2010 21:38:53 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the Planet Hulk storyline. quite literally one of the best Hulk stories in years. The cartoon is an excellent if somewhat compressed version of the story. There is a link on this site to where you can watch it. WWHULK was also a cool story of Revenge for Hulk. But Jeph Loeb just seems to have lost his sanity following the death of his son. His writing has just gone down the tubes, This Red Hulk shit is just that. At least to me. My fear is that the whole Red Hulk thing will turn into the Hulk's version of The Clone Saga. As a long time Hulk fan, I've pretty much decided that what I like about Hulk is over. Peter David pretty much drove that feeling home when he wrote about an intelligent Hulk. It's like he didn't get the whole concept that made Hulk cool to me. Red, Orange, Purple, Green Hulks... I don't care what they do. To me it's crappy unimaginative writing and it doesn't interest me in the least. Historically, very few writers know how to write a character well that is extremely powerful. Their thinking doesn't escalate up to that level and they can't imagine challenges that great for the hero to go up against. They traditional find some twist of fate to put the character in a weakened state either physically or emotionally. They disproportionately spend time focusing on lame or weak supporting characters and they fail to deliver an interesting story. The idea that they'd take Hulk out of the Civil War storyline is a pussy way out. I say leave Hulk in. Have him kick everyone's ass and then sort through the aftermath. That'd be a hell of a lot more interesting story to me. I used to love Defenders issues where they had to trick Hulk to go along. The team had lame characters like Valkyrie and Nighthawk that had no hope of a chance against Hulk. If they couldn't coax him into doing what they want, there was no way to stop him from doing otherwise. df1 |
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Hulk
Apr 12, 2010 23:02:53 GMT -5
Post by G on Apr 12, 2010 23:02:53 GMT -5
So many people will differ from my opinion, but I always thought the best Hulk was the really stupid, extremely angry, dumb talking, Hulk Smash Hulk. I've heard over and over the stories were too simple and how many times could you see him be that way? Maybe so, but I wasn't tired of it at the time. Perhaps by now I would be. But I don't like the directions they took him in. I've never cared for an intelligent Hulk. Hulk was always just a badass dude with amazing muscles and dammit, sometimes beating the shit out of things was the best way to get the job done. And it wasn't like Hulk didn't have a heart. He really had his moments of being gentle and looking after his friends.
Hulk may have been one of the 1st comics I ever remember seeing way back in grade school. I remember other kids looking at the Hulk and I particularly remember Hulk fighting the Leader with his plastic looking mindless men running around and Hulk was picking up ground and earthquaking them with ease. I remember kids going "He's even got muscles in his fingers, look!". You couldn't beat the amazing wonderment he created back then. Kids dug him and older kids and young adults dug him too. Hulk was just bad!
And some of my favorite moments were drawn by Middle Weight artists like Trimpe, Sal Buscema and Ernie Chan. I can look at those issues for hours, while the last 2 decades has me doing little more than flipping pages. There hasn't been the same feeling anytime I see him anymore. I've lost that thrill of being like those kids who used to say "Look, he's so muscular his fingers are muscular!". It's sorta like having Spider-man no longer traveling by web slinging because he outgrew it.
I know it's wrong for me to live in the past, I just haven't seen anything with Hulk in a long time that made me want to jump in and like him again. But if someone did him the way I remember him, I know I would go back in a heartbeat.
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Hulk
Apr 16, 2010 15:23:49 GMT -5
Post by cyberstrike on Apr 16, 2010 15:23:49 GMT -5
Stupid Hulk + any writer=a waste of trees, money, and time.
Smart Hulk + Peter David=smart intelligent storytelling at it's best.
I LOVE the smart Hulk, PAD made a dull as a dirt character with NO real characterization into one of the complex 3-Dimensional characters. If PAD came back to the Incredible Hulk I would buy it so fast your head would spin.
Stupid Hulk is a piss-poor BAD joke of a character that NO one can ever make cool or make me give a fuck about and whose stories are the all the same.
Hell I even will take Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's semi-intelligent Grey Hulk over the dumb green one any day of the week, and I'm NOT big fan of the Silver Age.
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