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Post by azbatx on Apr 19, 2010 20:54:59 GMT -5
There were comics I didn't like in 1970. If youngblood had come out in 1970, I was smart enough to know a bow needs a string. People don't have hooves for feet, and that 40 words on a page is more to read than 5. Get over basic obstacles like that I might like an image comic. df1 I suggest actually going out and looking at the books Image produces. Books like Fell and Walking Dead are completely different than that of which you speak of. And they are only two of the titles like this. Here is what they look like so you know what to look for.
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Post by defiant1 on Apr 19, 2010 22:34:02 GMT -5
There were comics I didn't like in 1970. If youngblood had come out in 1970, I was smart enough to know a bow needs a string. People don't have hooves for feet, and that 40 words on a page is more to read than 5. Get over basic obstacles like that I might like an image comic. df1 I suggest actually going out and looking at the books Image produces. Books like Fell and Walking Dead are completely different than that of which you speak of. And they are only two of the titles like this. Here is what they look like so you know what to look for. The horror genre doesn't interest me in the least, so I seriously doubt either of those will. I probably have a long box of Image. As a general rule, I find none of it entertaining. Witchblade was pretty, but my God there was no story. Image has a tendency to bastardize anything they touch, much as Avatar did. The last Ellis book I bought from Avatar almost went in the trash. Invincible looked rather geeky and I couldn't stand the art. Zombies REALLY don't interest me. If Kirkman (?) is their saving grace, I'm content with not buying any of it. I'm about to write off all modern comics... even the Dark Horse reboot. There are enough old comics I want that I'd rather just save my money and buy those. I'm sick of everything new comics offer. I'm sick of computer coloring. I'm sick of glossy paper where everything looks plastic. I'm sick of comics that have less words than one page from an EC comic. The Walking Dead artwork on that cover looks horrible. If I recall, the Chew artwork was horrible too. I lose interest in a comic very quickly when the art becomes a distraction instead of an enhancement. df1
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Post by azbatx on Apr 20, 2010 4:38:33 GMT -5
I suggest actually going out and looking at the books Image produces. Books like Fell and Walking Dead are completely different than that of which you speak of. And they are only two of the titles like this. Here is what they look like so you know what to look for. The horror genre doesn't interest me in the least, so I seriously doubt either of those will. I probably have a long box of Image. As a general rule, I find none of it entertaining. Witchblade was pretty, but my God there was no story. Image has a tendency to bastardize anything they touch, much as Avatar did. The last Ellis book I bought from Avatar almost went in the trash. Invincible looked rather geeky and I couldn't stand the art. Zombies REALLY don't interest me. If Kirkman (?) is their saving grace, I'm content with not buying any of it. I'm about to write off all modern comics... even the Dark Horse reboot. There are enough old comics I want that I'd rather just save my money and buy those. I'm sick of everything new comics offer. I'm sick of computer coloring. I'm sick of glossy paper where everything looks plastic. I'm sick of comics that have less words than one page from an EC comic. The Walking Dead artwork on that cover looks horrible. If I recall, the Chew artwork was horrible too. I lose interest in a comic very quickly when the art becomes a distraction instead of an enhancement. df1 Again. I suggest LOOKING at them before you say anything else. Fell is not a horror comic. Basing a book on its cover? Come on dude. You should know better by now not to do that.
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Post by defiant1 on Apr 20, 2010 5:06:43 GMT -5
The horror genre doesn't interest me in the least, so I seriously doubt either of those will. I probably have a long box of Image. As a general rule, I find none of it entertaining. Witchblade was pretty, but my God there was no story. Image has a tendency to bastardize anything they touch, much as Avatar did. The last Ellis book I bought from Avatar almost went in the trash. Invincible looked rather geeky and I couldn't stand the art. Zombies REALLY don't interest me. If Kirkman (?) is their saving grace, I'm content with not buying any of it. I'm about to write off all modern comics... even the Dark Horse reboot. There are enough old comics I want that I'd rather just save my money and buy those. I'm sick of everything new comics offer. I'm sick of computer coloring. I'm sick of glossy paper where everything looks plastic. I'm sick of comics that have less words than one page from an EC comic. The Walking Dead artwork on that cover looks horrible. If I recall, the Chew artwork was horrible too. I lose interest in a comic very quickly when the art becomes a distraction instead of an enhancement. df1 Again. I suggest LOOKING at them before you say anything else. Fell is not a horror comic. Basing a book on its cover? Come on dude. You should know better by now not to do that. I've looked at countless issues of Walking Dead. I can buy the last 20 issues or so at a shop in town. I think the art is horrible. I don't want to read about zombies. You couldn't pay me to even pretend to be interested in zombies. Ellis doesn't overwhelm me as a writer, so I don't care what Fell is about. I didn't assume Fell was a horror comic, but it does look irreverent and pretentious. Again... I don't like the art on the cover. I feel like it's a comic book company's responsibility to make the cover at least interesting. If they fail at their most important task, why should I assume it's worth my time and effort? I own some Image comics. As a general rule, I'm tired of looking for the needle in the haystack. When you open the pages of their books and 95% have either NO appeal or no LASTING appeal, why even give them a shot? Of all the comics I bought between the years 1996 & 2000, I wish I could have my money back on all the Image I bought during that time. I regret all the times I gave them the benefit of the doubt. I can't think of one Image comic that I feel I really 'must have'. Not one. df1
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Post by bigw1966 on Apr 20, 2010 8:23:57 GMT -5
Never Judge a book by its cover. If you cannot stand anything past the silver age, then you shouldn't take part in conversations about modern comics.
I say this because for Example
FELL is a straight up cop book. Very good stories about one city cop in a little town on the other side of the bridge where things are not always peaceful.
WALKING DEAD- contrary to what you may think by just flipping a couple of pages, this book is about anything BUT zombies. In fact the Zombies are just a tool to tell some of the best written stories in comics. This book is about the people. They are the walking dead. Its about survivors of the Zombie Plague and how the changed world is affecting their sanity and their very grasp on what they recognize as humanity. This book is so good. I have every trade paperback and feel it was money well spent. Additionally, once you read a few issues of it, you will realize that the artwork which is done by Sean Phillips in the later issues is frikkin perfect for the kind of story that is presented. It is filled with emotional weight.
INVINCIBLE- I cannot say a single bad thing about this book. Image if young Superman had the luck of Peter Parker and was actually really fun to read. That is this book. Great Villains, Inventive heroes and supporting characters, Brutally violent and character defining action scenes. These last two titles that I just described are the primary reason that Kirkman was made a partner in Image Comics. They are that good.
Regarding Ellis, His last book which is more of a Steampunk sci-fi was pretty good. Freak Angels is really good. I was not a fan of Anna Mercury though. It just seemed like he tried to hard to make something out of nothing.
But back to Image, If all you know about them is the stuff they did back in the 90's, then you do not know anything about the company.
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Post by G on Apr 20, 2010 10:11:29 GMT -5
Never Judge a book by its cover. If you cannot stand anything past the silver age, then you shouldn't take part in conversations about modern comics. No one has to like a book or books in order to take part in a discussion here. I've seen message boards where discussions about books or companies take place and there is nothing but praise thrown at it. I don't think that is much of a discussion. It's more like a cheering section and while the majority may cheer something on, I'm more interested in honest opinions both pros and cons. I find that more interesting in terms of discussion rather than endless rah, rahs. Any group of comics (including Silver Age) can be discussed here and no one is left out if they don't like them. If they don't care for it, they are free to say so.
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Post by bigw1966 on Apr 20, 2010 14:07:07 GMT -5
I wouldn't go so far as to do any Rah, rah, rahs, but At least be able to contribute something other than I hate this and I hate that and so on. And I am not trying to offend defient1 who I am talking about here, but you pretty much act like comics went to shit after the silver age. I only base that upon the posts here.
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Post by cyberstrike on Apr 20, 2010 14:34:47 GMT -5
WALKING DEAD- contrary to what you may think by just flipping a couple of pages, this book is about anything BUT zombies. In fact the Zombies are just a tool to tell some of the best written stories in comics. This book is about the people. They are the walking dead. Its about survivors of the Zombie Plague and how the changed world is affecting their sanity and their very grasp on what they recognize as humanity. This book is so good. I have every trade paperback and feel it was money well spent. Additionally, once you read a few issues of it, you will realize that the artwork which is done by Sean Phillips in the later issues is frikkin perfect for the kind of story that is presented. It is filled with emotional weight. I bought the 1st TPB of The Walking Dead and I will be the first to admit that out of all monsters zombies are by far my least favorite. I was really impressed by how good The Walking Dead is, however it's something that I can only read everyonce in a while. If you want a real good super-hero series check out Noble Causes it was about the characters and not about the action.
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Post by azbatx on Apr 20, 2010 15:25:46 GMT -5
I've looked at countless issues of Walking Dead. I can buy the last 20 issues or so at a shop in town. I think the art is horrible. I don't want to read about zombies. You couldn't pay me to even pretend to be interested in zombies. Ellis doesn't overwhelm me as a writer, so I don't care what Fell is about. I didn't assume Fell was a horror comic, but it does look irreverent and pretentious. Again... I don't like the art on the cover. I feel like it's a comic book company's responsibility to make the cover at least interesting. If they fail at their most important task, why should I assume it's worth my time and effort? I own some Image comics. As a general rule, I'm tired of looking for the needle in the haystack. When you open the pages of their books and 95% have either NO appeal or no LASTING appeal, why even give them a shot? Of all the comics I bought between the years 1996 & 2000, I wish I could have my money back on all the Image I bought during that time. I regret all the times I gave them the benefit of the doubt. I can't think of one Image comic that I feel I really 'must have'. Not one. df1 If it isn't one thing it's another. You are ignorant about Image in the past 10 years.
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Post by G on Apr 20, 2010 18:11:08 GMT -5
No matter how fervant any of us are on our favorite comics or company that produces comics, I don't think any of us should feel we need to persuade others to feel the same way we do. Unless someone is willing to try something out of our suggestions, we shouldn't expect otherwise. Some people are high on their convictions. I've even seen where some will not buy from DC again unless Didio is gone. If people have convictions not to buy something, no matter how convinced we are, we shouldn't expect them to turn over a new leaf and begin now, just because we say it is good. There will be others mind you who will take your words into account and give it a shot just because you said it was good. It really all depends on the person. But really, none of us should expect people to change who they are.
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